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	<title>Comments on: Rainmaking Problem # 7:  Innovation or Overreach</title>
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		<title>By: Ford Harding</title>
		<link>http://www.hardingco.com/blog/2009/01/07/rainmaking-problem-7-innovation-or-overreach/comment-page-1/#comment-17504</link>
		<dc:creator>Ford Harding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve:

Logically, and has been said by others over the years, you can take new services to old clients, old services to new clients, or, with more of a stretch, new services to new clients.  Replace the word "clients" with "markets," if you want a broader perspective.  The old services to new clients and markets is an excellent way to extend one's offering.  You point our that you may need someone with market knowledge in the new industry to help with language and other differences.  

Of course, one can overreach here, too.  A company that has worked on supply chain for retailers and manufacturers, who tries to extend the market to pharmaceutical companies and hospitals must learn fast how to deal with such concerns as the potential for a stockout to cause someone's death, the need to meet FDA standards and many other differences, which are consequential.  So, it can have many of the same overreach risks that developing new services for old clients has.

Thanks for the comment.

Ford Harding</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve:</p>
<p>Logically, and has been said by others over the years, you can take new services to old clients, old services to new clients, or, with more of a stretch, new services to new clients.  Replace the word &#8220;clients&#8221; with &#8220;markets,&#8221; if you want a broader perspective.  The old services to new clients and markets is an excellent way to extend one&#8217;s offering.  You point our that you may need someone with market knowledge in the new industry to help with language and other differences.  </p>
<p>Of course, one can overreach here, too.  A company that has worked on supply chain for retailers and manufacturers, who tries to extend the market to pharmaceutical companies and hospitals must learn fast how to deal with such concerns as the potential for a stockout to cause someone&#8217;s death, the need to meet FDA standards and many other differences, which are consequential.  So, it can have many of the same overreach risks that developing new services for old clients has.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.</p>
<p>Ford Harding</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Congdon</title>
		<link>http://www.hardingco.com/blog/2009/01/07/rainmaking-problem-7-innovation-or-overreach/comment-page-1/#comment-17497</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Congdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good AM. Happy New Year. I don't know if this is on-topic or not, but can't innovation to a firm simply mean a new market? (Applying your expertise to a new field that has similar characteristics to the one you're used to serving.)

Here's some context that moves this point beyond 101:

I have a client with deep expertise in one specific retail category. But there are contiguous categories that would find relevance in their offering. The principles, technology and strategic chops are the client's engine. But the company can sub-contract the language intricacies of the new category (on a short-term basis). Sadly, our economy has put a lot of smart people on the street. This is now for sale. New people to the firm - even on a sort term basis - can bring relationships, new contacts, etc. All of which can be leveraged by the hiring company. So long as the new staffer is fairly compensated.

While it may not be possible to go after the really big guys in a new category, there's nothing wrong with honing the story by working on smaller players. Then tackling the biggies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good AM. Happy New Year. I don&#8217;t know if this is on-topic or not, but can&#8217;t innovation to a firm simply mean a new market? (Applying your expertise to a new field that has similar characteristics to the one you&#8217;re used to serving.)</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some context that moves this point beyond 101:</p>
<p>I have a client with deep expertise in one specific retail category. But there are contiguous categories that would find relevance in their offering. The principles, technology and strategic chops are the client&#8217;s engine. But the company can sub-contract the language intricacies of the new category (on a short-term basis). Sadly, our economy has put a lot of smart people on the street. This is now for sale. New people to the firm - even on a sort term basis - can bring relationships, new contacts, etc. All of which can be leveraged by the hiring company. So long as the new staffer is fairly compensated.</p>
<p>While it may not be possible to go after the really big guys in a new category, there&#8217;s nothing wrong with honing the story by working on smaller players. Then tackling the biggies!</p>
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		<title>By: Ford Harding</title>
		<link>http://www.hardingco.com/blog/2009/01/07/rainmaking-problem-7-innovation-or-overreach/comment-page-1/#comment-17441</link>
		<dc:creator>Ford Harding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark

Great story!  Helpful, too.  

Ford</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark</p>
<p>Great story!  Helpful, too.  </p>
<p>Ford</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Hoye</title>
		<link>http://www.hardingco.com/blog/2009/01/07/rainmaking-problem-7-innovation-or-overreach/comment-page-1/#comment-17429</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Hoye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 04:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin -

Thanks for your comment.  Actually, my assumption was that "we won't really know unless we actually try it, so..." and then hedges, as Ford noted...

Good question, Ford.  I hope our group doesn't have to go there...

Frogs...??...ask the feng shui crowd...

Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin -</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment.  Actually, my assumption was that &#8220;we won&#8217;t really know unless we actually try it, so&#8230;&#8221; and then hedges, as Ford noted&#8230;</p>
<p>Good question, Ford.  I hope our group doesn&#8217;t have to go there&#8230;</p>
<p>Frogs&#8230;??&#8230;ask the feng shui crowd&#8230;</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Buckshon</title>
		<link>http://www.hardingco.com/blog/2009/01/07/rainmaking-problem-7-innovation-or-overreach/comment-page-1/#comment-17425</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Buckshon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently, a client presented us with a 'wired' bidding opportunity outside our scope of business/work.  I considered the implications and opportunities, and decided the best way to handle it would be as a separate (but related) business.  Then I phoned a few people I knew with expertise in the specialized areas required and within a few days, we agreed on a joint venture.  (I structured things so my business controls the money!)
The project has proven to be successful, creating new opportunities for my business and some valuable cash flow.  With the JV partners we have ensured the client is receiving a top rate product/service, without disrupting or risking my core business opportunities.
Sometimes the 'stretch' is solved by bringing in others -- a really good spin off of course is this also really enhances your network and creates even more opportunities for the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently, a client presented us with a &#8216;wired&#8217; bidding opportunity outside our scope of business/work.  I considered the implications and opportunities, and decided the best way to handle it would be as a separate (but related) business.  Then I phoned a few people I knew with expertise in the specialized areas required and within a few days, we agreed on a joint venture.  (I structured things so my business controls the money!)<br />
The project has proven to be successful, creating new opportunities for my business and some valuable cash flow.  With the JV partners we have ensured the client is receiving a top rate product/service, without disrupting or risking my core business opportunities.<br />
Sometimes the &#8217;stretch&#8217; is solved by bringing in others &#8212; a really good spin off of course is this also really enhances your network and creates even more opportunities for the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Ford Harding</title>
		<link>http://www.hardingco.com/blog/2009/01/07/rainmaking-problem-7-innovation-or-overreach/comment-page-1/#comment-17421</link>
		<dc:creator>Ford Harding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 02:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liz, Martin, Kathryn and Andy:

Many thanks for all your comments.  Martin, I like the simplicity of your idea.  It's a good rule for a small firm like mine.  Do you think it applies to large ones with deep pockets, too?

Kathryn, your comment is a good reminder that innovation may be in the way we structure and price traditional services.

Andy, your comment implies that even if we decide that it is a go, we should recognize that the judgment be faulty and we should hedge.  Where do I get the frogs?

Ford</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz, Martin, Kathryn and Andy:</p>
<p>Many thanks for all your comments.  Martin, I like the simplicity of your idea.  It&#8217;s a good rule for a small firm like mine.  Do you think it applies to large ones with deep pockets, too?</p>
<p>Kathryn, your comment is a good reminder that innovation may be in the way we structure and price traditional services.</p>
<p>Andy, your comment implies that even if we decide that it is a go, we should recognize that the judgment be faulty and we should hedge.  Where do I get the frogs?</p>
<p>Ford</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Stockdale</title>
		<link>http://www.hardingco.com/blog/2009/01/07/rainmaking-problem-7-innovation-or-overreach/comment-page-1/#comment-17419</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Stockdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,

To me, your response assumes that the overreach problem has been decided in the "No, it's not" vein. If so, then you make good suggestions, but if one carefully reviews the question at hand, it's being asked how/when does a company decide if an "innovation' is not really at innovation but an overreach of their capabilities. 

Martin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,</p>
<p>To me, your response assumes that the overreach problem has been decided in the &#8220;No, it&#8217;s not&#8221; vein. If so, then you make good suggestions, but if one carefully reviews the question at hand, it&#8217;s being asked how/when does a company decide if an &#8220;innovation&#8217; is not really at innovation but an overreach of their capabilities. </p>
<p>Martin</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Hoye</title>
		<link>http://www.hardingco.com/blog/2009/01/07/rainmaking-problem-7-innovation-or-overreach/comment-page-1/#comment-17415</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Hoye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do a CBA, short-term and long-term, best and worst cases.  Add a cushion for yourself in the delivery terms (by adjusting timing or volume, not quality).  Offer incentives to sign up now, and possibly offer payment terms.  If your inovation product or service will also be seen by the client's customers as something new, help the client leverage that advantage by offering ad sharing (or similar) in a pass-through agreement with your client.

Have hard check-points with "go or no-go" options and exit strategies.

Cross your fingers and put a frog in every corner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do a CBA, short-term and long-term, best and worst cases.  Add a cushion for yourself in the delivery terms (by adjusting timing or volume, not quality).  Offer incentives to sign up now, and possibly offer payment terms.  If your inovation product or service will also be seen by the client&#8217;s customers as something new, help the client leverage that advantage by offering ad sharing (or similar) in a pass-through agreement with your client.</p>
<p>Have hard check-points with &#8220;go or no-go&#8221; options and exit strategies.</p>
<p>Cross your fingers and put a frog in every corner.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Christ, APR</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn Christ, APR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thought, Martin. That's an efficient and straightforward way to make that decision. 

One change I've made recently is to restructure the way I sell my products and services without affecting my rate. In the past, a prospect might have a $24,000 budget, which translates to a $2,000 monthly retainer. My business model requires a minimum of $2,500 as a monthly retainer. My recession solution? Structure the $24,000 budget as eight $3,000 monthly retainers. The benefit to the client is that we choose the most effective, possibly non-consecutive months, to do the public relations work. This works beautifully tying the work to trade shows, etc. The benefit to me is not taking monthly retainers below my profit margins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thought, Martin. That&#8217;s an efficient and straightforward way to make that decision. </p>
<p>One change I&#8217;ve made recently is to restructure the way I sell my products and services without affecting my rate. In the past, a prospect might have a $24,000 budget, which translates to a $2,000 monthly retainer. My business model requires a minimum of $2,500 as a monthly retainer. My recession solution? Structure the $24,000 budget as eight $3,000 monthly retainers. The benefit to the client is that we choose the most effective, possibly non-consecutive months, to do the public relations work. This works beautifully tying the work to trade shows, etc. The benefit to me is not taking monthly retainers below my profit margins.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Stockdale</title>
		<link>http://www.hardingco.com/blog/2009/01/07/rainmaking-problem-7-innovation-or-overreach/comment-page-1/#comment-17410</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Stockdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way I look at it is like this: if we need to hire someone new to design/develop the new thing, and someone else new to support it, then it's an overreach. But, if our current stafff can handle the design/development/support of the innovation then it's in line with our core business strenghts and should be pursued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I look at it is like this: if we need to hire someone new to design/develop the new thing, and someone else new to support it, then it&#8217;s an overreach. But, if our current stafff can handle the design/development/support of the innovation then it&#8217;s in line with our core business strenghts and should be pursued.</p>
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