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	<title>Comments on: Rainmaking Problem #23:  What to Do with Mooch</title>
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		<title>By: Ford Harding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ford Harding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The person who posed the question asked me to post this replyu:

Thank you all for your advice.  To answer your questions: 1) I believe Mooch good at what he does, but like most of us, he has had some bad times with the good.  It&#039;s not a completely clear picture, though mostly good.  2) I do like him, but as Matt sensed, I feel used.  I think I have been a friend to him and don&#039;t get real signals of friendship in return.  I don&#039;t take it personally; it&#039;s just the way he is.  When he wheedles, I feel imposed upon.  

I like helping people and do so often without expectation of getting anything back.  Many people are looking for work now and I can only refer job seekers so many times to a contact.  Because of that, it&#039;s harder to make referrals than it was a year ago.  I have to be careful not to wear out my welcome with my contacts.   If I refer Mooch, I may not be able to refer the next person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The person who posed the question asked me to post this replyu:</p>
<p>Thank you all for your advice.  To answer your questions: 1) I believe Mooch good at what he does, but like most of us, he has had some bad times with the good.  It&#8217;s not a completely clear picture, though mostly good.  2) I do like him, but as Matt sensed, I feel used.  I think I have been a friend to him and don&#8217;t get real signals of friendship in return.  I don&#8217;t take it personally; it&#8217;s just the way he is.  When he wheedles, I feel imposed upon.  </p>
<p>I like helping people and do so often without expectation of getting anything back.  Many people are looking for work now and I can only refer job seekers so many times to a contact.  Because of that, it&#8217;s harder to make referrals than it was a year ago.  I have to be careful not to wear out my welcome with my contacts.   If I refer Mooch, I may not be able to refer the next person.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you really need to be sure that Mooch is good at what he does.  If that is the case, then I would help him.  I have some folks like Mooch in my life and my perspective is that I really like these people; and therefore, I am willing to give and not get.  As long as you feel this way, you should continue to support him.  But, if you don&#039;t like him or you are unsure of his performance, then I would walk away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you really need to be sure that Mooch is good at what he does.  If that is the case, then I would help him.  I have some folks like Mooch in my life and my perspective is that I really like these people; and therefore, I am willing to give and not get.  As long as you feel this way, you should continue to support him.  But, if you don&#8217;t like him or you are unsure of his performance, then I would walk away.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Brodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Brodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol - that&#039;s an alternative way of doing it Matt!

But it does highlight that this question may turn on whether you really care about Mooch. If you do (as I assumed) you should help him, irrespective of whether you&#039;ll get anything back.

If you don&#039;t (as Matt may have astutely sussed out), it&#039;s time to let the relationship go.

Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol &#8211; that&#8217;s an alternative way of doing it Matt!</p>
<p>But it does highlight that this question may turn on whether you really care about Mooch. If you do (as I assumed) you should help him, irrespective of whether you&#8217;ll get anything back.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t (as Matt may have astutely sussed out), it&#8217;s time to let the relationship go.</p>
<p>Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Handal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Handal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me get this right. Mooch is good at what he does. Does any part of what he does include keeping up with his network? If so, it sounds like he kind of stinks. 

What evidence does this person have  that Mooch is &quot;good at what he does?&quot; Did he work directly with Mooch for a long period of time or was he Mooch&#039;s Manager? Otherwise, I&#039;m not sure how he can say Mooch is good at what he does. 

In addition, Mooch is so good at what he does, he&#039;s constantly out of work. Google &quot;Ford Harding Unproductive Network.&quot; It sounds to me like that&#039;s what you got on your hands. From a networking standpoint, dump Mooch.

If you truly cared about Mooch, you would not even have this dilemma. You would have helped him out without a second thought.  

You don&#039;t care about Mooch. Mooch could give two hoots about you. Cut the cord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this right. Mooch is good at what he does. Does any part of what he does include keeping up with his network? If so, it sounds like he kind of stinks. </p>
<p>What evidence does this person have  that Mooch is &#8220;good at what he does?&#8221; Did he work directly with Mooch for a long period of time or was he Mooch&#8217;s Manager? Otherwise, I&#8217;m not sure how he can say Mooch is good at what he does. </p>
<p>In addition, Mooch is so good at what he does, he&#8217;s constantly out of work. Google &#8220;Ford Harding Unproductive Network.&#8221; It sounds to me like that&#8217;s what you got on your hands. From a networking standpoint, dump Mooch.</p>
<p>If you truly cared about Mooch, you would not even have this dilemma. You would have helped him out without a second thought.  </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t care about Mooch. Mooch could give two hoots about you. Cut the cord.</p>
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		<title>By: August</title>
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		<dc:creator>August</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he is good at what he does, you referring him will help someone else.  That someone else may understand the game and you will receive your reward there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he is good at what he does, you referring him will help someone else.  That someone else may understand the game and you will receive your reward there.</p>
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		<title>By: Erica Stritch - RainToday.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica Stritch - RainToday.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ford - tough question and situation. And, Ian - Great suggestions above. I agree with your philosophy here. It goes back to the golden rule: Givers gain. And, I am of the mindset that there is more benefit to build bridges than burn them.

That said, you are missing one very important question you need to ask yourself: Are you comfortable recommending this person? Ultimately it is your brand and reputation on the line each time you make a recommendation. I&#039;d start here and if the answer is &#039;yes, I am confident in his abilities and work,&#039; then go forth and help him out. As Ian mentions, worst case is you are helping someone you like and believe in.

Erica</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ford &#8211; tough question and situation. And, Ian &#8211; Great suggestions above. I agree with your philosophy here. It goes back to the golden rule: Givers gain. And, I am of the mindset that there is more benefit to build bridges than burn them.</p>
<p>That said, you are missing one very important question you need to ask yourself: Are you comfortable recommending this person? Ultimately it is your brand and reputation on the line each time you make a recommendation. I&#8217;d start here and if the answer is &#8216;yes, I am confident in his abilities and work,&#8217; then go forth and help him out. As Ian mentions, worst case is you are helping someone you like and believe in.</p>
<p>Erica</p>
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		<title>By: laurence Ainsworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>laurence Ainsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rather agree with Ian,

I&#039;d rather put it more simply. If he is a friend then help a friend, all my friends have faults that I find irksome and I put up with them or if its really annoying I&#039;d tell them. 

In reality I&#039;d suggest that the reason your friend hasn&#039;t got any referrals to give you is because he doesn&#039;t work that way and just doesn&#039;t know how to produce referrals.

You could as a friend help him to find a job and as payment teach him how to get referrals so he can deliver then to you in the future.

Laurence Ainsworth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rather agree with Ian,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather put it more simply. If he is a friend then help a friend, all my friends have faults that I find irksome and I put up with them or if its really annoying I&#8217;d tell them. </p>
<p>In reality I&#8217;d suggest that the reason your friend hasn&#8217;t got any referrals to give you is because he doesn&#8217;t work that way and just doesn&#8217;t know how to produce referrals.</p>
<p>You could as a friend help him to find a job and as payment teach him how to get referrals so he can deliver then to you in the future.</p>
<p>Laurence Ainsworth</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Brodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Brodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm,

As far as I can see, he&#039;s someone you like, and he&#039;s good at what he does (so if you do help him out by referring him, there&#039;s not a high risk that it will backfire).

I&#039;m not really sure what the problem is.

If you help him out, the worst case is that you&#039;ve invested a little time to help out someone you like.

Best case is that the person or organisation you refer him too is grateful for a good recommendation.

Sure, it doesn&#039;t sound like you&#039;ll get a favour returned anytime soon. And it sounds like you&#039;re beginning to get a little resentful that he only ever speaks to you when he wants you to do something for him.

But I can&#039;t see how helping him out does you any harm, other than having to devote a little time to it.

Consider it an investment in the great cosmic karma bank or something.

Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm,</p>
<p>As far as I can see, he&#8217;s someone you like, and he&#8217;s good at what he does (so if you do help him out by referring him, there&#8217;s not a high risk that it will backfire).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not really sure what the problem is.</p>
<p>If you help him out, the worst case is that you&#8217;ve invested a little time to help out someone you like.</p>
<p>Best case is that the person or organisation you refer him too is grateful for a good recommendation.</p>
<p>Sure, it doesn&#8217;t sound like you&#8217;ll get a favour returned anytime soon. And it sounds like you&#8217;re beginning to get a little resentful that he only ever speaks to you when he wants you to do something for him.</p>
<p>But I can&#8217;t see how helping him out does you any harm, other than having to devote a little time to it.</p>
<p>Consider it an investment in the great cosmic karma bank or something.</p>
<p>Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Blonkvist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Blonkvist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that there are many consultants that, in one way or another with one or more relationships, act very much like Mooch.  In fact, I would argue that most consultants have some mooching relationships. Some relationships you tend to be the giver, others the taker. 

In fact I have a couple of relationships where I would be considered the moocher. The most appropriate activity that I have appreciated has been a general slow down in responsiveness to my requests. I think that sends a message without being ultra-negative. I take the hint and slow down my contact as well and I start thinking about what I can give to the relationship to build back my equity with the relationship. 

If the moocher doesn&#039;t take the hint or is in panic mode and reaches out continously,  then you might empathize with him, telling him its a tough market and I don&#039;t have any leads for you right now,  have you thought about doing x, y or z. 

I wouldn&#039;t cut off the relationship or burn it because you never know when you might need the bright moocher&#039;s help in the future. But if handle it with half the aplum of working with a client, it should not be that hard to get your point across without crushing him or hurting the relationship. 

If he/she crosses the line, you just say no and fain another call. They will get the idea.

Brad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that there are many consultants that, in one way or another with one or more relationships, act very much like Mooch.  In fact, I would argue that most consultants have some mooching relationships. Some relationships you tend to be the giver, others the taker. </p>
<p>In fact I have a couple of relationships where I would be considered the moocher. The most appropriate activity that I have appreciated has been a general slow down in responsiveness to my requests. I think that sends a message without being ultra-negative. I take the hint and slow down my contact as well and I start thinking about what I can give to the relationship to build back my equity with the relationship. </p>
<p>If the moocher doesn&#8217;t take the hint or is in panic mode and reaches out continously,  then you might empathize with him, telling him its a tough market and I don&#8217;t have any leads for you right now,  have you thought about doing x, y or z. </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t cut off the relationship or burn it because you never know when you might need the bright moocher&#8217;s help in the future. But if handle it with half the aplum of working with a client, it should not be that hard to get your point across without crushing him or hurting the relationship. </p>
<p>If he/she crosses the line, you just say no and fain another call. They will get the idea.</p>
<p>Brad</p>
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		<title>By: Kerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have a phone conversation with Mooch, and let him know that you&#039;ll keep an eye out for other opportunities. Then go on with your day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have a phone conversation with Mooch, and let him know that you&#8217;ll keep an eye out for other opportunities. Then go on with your day.</p>
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